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Old Jun 01, 2010, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #1
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Hi,

I am trying to speedbook and I setup myself and heroes for the three missions. I am using the following build:

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Speedbook

I am having problem in the last mission, A Time for Heroes. I did it with W/A build both in NM and HM a few times and then it just became impossible to do. Although I have all the bonds on me, some ele skills do full dmg like 70-100 on me and I get owned.

Then I tried the following build as a W/D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9LyCK4GX1U

But again, I get full dmg and die.

Anybody had the same issue? Is there something I am missing or it got nerfed?
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #2
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Very simple solution.....PI.....follow the left side kill the destroyers PI the Great Destroyer---->Win....so much simpler than trying to run a 105.
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 04:14 PM // 16:14   #3
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I did a couple of runs this morning. I had no problems. Did you remember to display your delver title? Maybe you have changed some runes on the Monks so their attributes are too low.
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #4
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- Make sure u put all the enchantments on you. Also the double ones. I also thought they were the same, so I didn't put them up. And so I died all the time. Then I found out you have to put all the enchantments up ><
- Make sure to interrupt Lava Wave
- Make sure monks have full energy before you go in.
- Don't give up After an while u won't fail anymore. And 1 minute runs r nice!

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U need 105 hp

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Old Jun 01, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #5
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there is also a variant that does not require 105 hp and also remember to cast the enchantments in the right order. If I didnt remember wrong it was Protective bond -> Life Barrier -> life bond
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 07:18 PM // 19:18   #6
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i had problems w/ this too earlier(like 2 days ago.) i figured out(for w/e reason) that the order of the hero's skill you put on matters(w/ the prot bond varient.) i cant remember the order atm but it should be all 3 monks in a row.

but i do know what u are talking about. I was getting hit w/ like 100 damadge out of no where w/ all 3 prot bonds on and all enchnats up. I think its jsut some weird coding where u have to have all 3 hero in order.

also dont forget to put up delver title. it helps alot against some of those attacks(deeds for example.)
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 07:37 PM // 19:37   #7
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Yeah, as other people mentioned, the monks need to have full and maximum possible energy. The energy loss from Protective Bond is split evenly within the three heroes, so it is preferred to have 13 Protection Prayers per each hero (since it costs 3 energy per hit, having it split into three heroes make it cost one energy per hit).

Also, make sure there aren't Destroyer of Deeds around, because they are capable of interrupting and ruining your run. Yes, it is possible to do the run when Deeds are around, but it would be much easier if there aren't any around.
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #8
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- Make sure u put all the enchantments on you. Also the double ones. I also thought they were the same, so I didn't put them up. And so I died all the time. Then I found out you have to put all the enchantments up ><
- Make sure to interrupt Lava Wave
- Make sure monks have full energy before you go in.
- Don't give up After an while u won't fail anymore. And 1 minute runs r nice!

p.s
U need 105 hp
55 Will work acually
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Old Jun 01, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #9
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55 Will work acually
you can't 55 with daggers
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 05:44 AM // 05:44   #10
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Hi,

Thanks for all the suggestions, what Warvic mentioned

- Make sure u put all the enchantments on you. Also the double ones. I also thought they were the same, so I didn't put them up. And so I died all the time. Then I found out you have to put all the enchantments up ><

solved my problem. Now I can run it flawless with a 105 W and all bonds on. Bond order seems not to have an effect as some of you suggested. Maybe it has in some conditions.
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